Dagger Dealers Price list
Peter
Peter
Dagger 1998 Dealers Prices 423-882-0404
Model Material Colors Trim/Optlon Retail Cost
TOURING KAYAKS
Apostle EXLTm (listed below) Expedition 1150.00 776.00
Atlantis* EXI.Tm Expedition 1289,00 870.00
Edisto EXLym Basic 735.00 502.00
Edisto EXLTm Expedition 840,00 567,00
Magellan EXIL"m Expedition 1120.00 756.00
Seeker EXLTM Basic 795.00 537.00
Seeker EXLTm Expedition 1029.00 695.00
Vesper EXLTm Basic 675.00 463.00
Vesper EXLTm Expedition 795.00 537.0C
COMPOSITE TOURING KAYAKS
Meridian Glass" (listed bellow) Expedition 2100.00 1409.00
Meridian Kevlar*' Expedition 2500.00 1679.00
Sitka Glass Expedition 2350.00 1577.00
Sitka Kevlar Expedition 2650.00 1778.00
TOURING CANOES
Legend RX green, red Vinyl 1130.00 795.00
Legend RX Wood 1325.00 934.00
Passage R-Light2Tm s red, green Alum. 1020.00 721.00
Passage R-Light2Tm wood 1235.00 865.00
Reflection 15 R-Light2Tm s.red, green Alum 960.00 675,00
Reflection 15 R-Llght2Tm Wood 1139,00 798.00
Reflection 16 R-Light2Tm s.red,teal.greenAlum. 999,00 703.00
Reflection 16 R-Light2Tm wood 1189.00 833.00
Sojourn R-Light2-Tm teal, s. red, Alum. 679.00 623.00
Sojoun R-Light2TM Wood 1079.00 760.00
Suwannee R-Light-2Tm s.red. greenVinyl 960.00 675.00
Suwannee R-Light2-Tm wood 1139.00 798.00
Tupelo R-Light2-Tm green Alum. 545.00 387.00
Tupelo R-Light2- wood 696,00 494.00
Venture 17 RX s. red, green Vinyl 1160.00 816.00
Venture 17 RX wood 1325.00 940.00
RECREATIONAL KAYAKS
Bayou' EXLTM 509.00 340.00
Bayou 2-EXLTm 699.00 472.00
WHITEWATER KAYAKS, (C-1)
Animals EXLTM 889,00 595.00
Piedro EXLTm 889.00 595.00
Atom' EXLTm 889.00 595.00
Blast EXLTm 799.00 535.00
Crossfire EXLTm 889.00 595.00
Freefoll LT EXL Im 889.00 595.00
Gradient* EXLTm 889.00 595,00
Outburst EXLrm 889 00 595.00
RPM EXI-Tm 889.00 595.00
Vertigo- EXLTm 889.00 595.00
DEV MODELS (DAGGER ECONOMY VERSIONS)
Crossfire * EXLTM s. blue, s. teal 659.00 409.00
Freefall LT* EXLTM 659.00 409.00
WHITEWATER CANOES
Caption RX yellow, red Vinyl 999.00 714.00
Caption RX Wood 1150.00 824,00
Impulse RX red Vinyl 875.00 625.00
Impulse RX Wood 1099,00 780.00
Ocoee RX yellow, red Vinyl 895.00 640.00
Ocoee RX wood 1119 00 793.00
Ovation RX yellow, red Vinyl 895.00 640.00
Ovation RX Wood 1119.00 793.00
Rival R-Light2Tm aqua Vinyl 895.00 640.00
Rival R-Light2Tm Wood 1119.00 793.00
SIT-ON-TOPS
Cayman EXLTm (listed below) 599.00 399,00
Frolic EXLTm 499.00 334.00
Pegasus EXLTm 599.00 399.00
Baker2150
breach of confidentiality or what?
Leland
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Edward Hansen
care to cut and paste it anew?
Baker2150 wrote in message <19981113182133...@ng128.aol.com>...
KSTRELETZK
>breach of confidentiality or what?
Not really - doubt those are the net, net prices the dealers actually pay!
- Mothra (aka Kathy Streletzky)
"The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow if I can." - J R.R. Tolkien
henryt...@msn.com
not, I hope your local dealer sees this and never lets you back in the shop!
Kevin
PS: And no, I don't work in the kayak industry.
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Joey Hall
in a wad, just as many dagger boats will be sold with or without this list.
fallZ...@hotmail.com
I don't know. When you're looking at new cars, do you find out what the
invoice price is, or do you just go by the sticker? Of course, not all
dealers have paid the same price for their boats, and some will discount more
than others.
David Mackintosh
fallZ...@hotmail.com
Scott Strohm
> it's pretty uncool posting this in a newsgroup....
> --
> Leland
> <snip>
Well, Leland; why not zow us with why you believe that.
This newsgroup is the perfect place for such information. I would
hazard to guess that most who follow this NG will appreciate such
info (if indeed the price list is factual).
As Joey Hall said in another post in this thread:
"we all know about dealer mark up, don't get your[self] in a wad,
just as many [of this brand of] boats will be sold with or without
this list."
Do you have stock in that maker's company or something?
Is that manufacturer charging an exorbitant markup?
--
Scott (one "r") Strohm
TURF Info
time you buy a tent, bike, skiis, rack, slleping bag,etc. you can use these
ranges to figure out a fairly accurate rough dealer price. Knowing this
information only becomes dangerous to the retail structure when a dealer
breaches and undersells which ultimately just hurts that dealer. They need that
margin to pay employeees, keep the lights on, pay for their retail space and
maybe, maybe make a few shillings profit.
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wrote:
> >Hard to believe Dagger would want this info floating around. Is this just a
> >breach of confidentiality or what?
>
> Not really - doubt those are the net, net prices the dealers actually pay!
More than that, even if the numbers are what they purport to be, they
are almost meaningless without also stating the terms of sale (from
factory to dealer).
For example, what is the factory's return policy? A no-questions-asked
return policy (like REI used to have for retail customers) might be
worth $200 or 300 per boat to the dealer. How 'bout national and co-op
advertising? If the factory does a lot, then a higher price per boat
(maybe $100) is justified. Exclusive territories? Enforcement of MSRP?
No retail sales from factory? Other "channel discipline?" Spifs?
Promos? Field support? POS material? On and on.
Reading anything into these numbers without knowing the terms of sale
shows a total lack of understanding of how business works. But that
never stopped a thread here before. :)
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Joey Hall
LangleyB
I'd say that there is an excellent chance that this represents disinformation
and someone woul like to have us think that dealers pay $595 for a whitewater
boat.
Based on some of the prices I have seen, I'd say that is impossible.
Bob Langley
Winters, CA
John William Kuthe
No, I disagree!!
>I'd say that there is an excellent chance that this represents disinformation
>and someone woul like to have us think that dealers pay $595 for a whitewater
>boat.
I can comfirm this by experience. I bought a new Outburst two years
ago, from a local shop that was going out of business. The owner
acted as a Dagger dealer for me (since Dagger does not go factory
direct), and I gave this dealer $50 for their trouble, and got my
*new*, custom color Outburst for $650!!! (Rounded.)
I don't have a problem paying dealer prices, they do add value and
service, and ought to make a few $$ on a boat they sell, but like
another poster said about new cars, knowing the price the dealer pays
gives the consumer necessary and valuable knowlege to judge whether or
not their dealer is offering a good deal!
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Tom Polomchak
pay. think about it: if you were to buy boats at $595. apiece and say
you buy 10 boat at a time. thats $5950 you put out. how much money do
you think is fair for the dealer to make on his $5950 investment?
actually i think the price is lower cuz thats not much less than i
usually pay. the most i ever paid is $750 because the boat was only out
2-weeks and i had to have it.
if your patient and have internet access almost any boat can be had
for around $700-750 and even less if their older
models.
peace,
tom.
in anticipation for precipitation!
msmith
>
> it's pretty uncool posting this in a newsgroup....
And why is that?
Michael Smith
Alex Derr
What do _you_ sell for a living? Face it-- you generate money by selling
products, services, or your time. What's your markup? You may have to do
some digging to get this number, but it will make your jaw drop. Your eyes
will bulge, and you will have a sudden urge to urinate.
Here's the real test. Go to your LBS and meet the people working there.
Get to know them. Go boating. Did they run the shuttle in a Mercedes? I
don't think so.
-Alex
LangleyB
Please be careful how you read posts to the newsgroup.
I did not say what you have attributed to me above. That was taken from the
post to which I was replying (written by someone name Leland) and was cleary
marked as the first few lines of this are. I don't particularly appreciate
your broadcasting to the "world" a sentiment that I do not necessarily hold.
Bob Langley
Winters, CA
John William Kuthe
LangleyB <lang...@aol.com> wrote:
>>LangleyB <lang...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>it's pretty uncool posting this in a newsgroup....
>>
>>No, I disagree!!
>
>Please be careful how you read posts to the newsgroup.
I apologize for this aggregious misattribution. I will go back and
check how I made such a stupid error. I am usually very careful
aboutb these kinds of things.
John William Kuthe
AHA!! Here's how I made the error of attributing the above statement
to LangleyB!! *HE* managed to delete the attribution to the *actual*
poster!! (Leland)
HAH!
eric breon
include shipping to the dealer, which would run between $50 and $90 per
boat.
eric.
LangleyB wrote:
>
> >it's pretty uncool posting this in a newsgroup....
>
> I'd say that there is an excellent chance that this represents disinformation
> and someone woul like to have us think that dealers pay $595 for a whitewater
> boat.
>
> Based on some of the prices I have seen, I'd say that is impossible.
>
> Bob Langley
> Winters, CA
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