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Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13357

I cant find a website where I found a way to make pogies. Please help me out.

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13655

Can't help you with a website, but can walk you through how I made mine.

Need at least a yard of waterproof fabric, 18 inches wide, about 18-36 inches of 1\" wide velcro, a couple of yards of seaming tape, and use of a sewing machine. Use polyester or Nylon thread, and a heavier grade if you can find it. Gore-tex can be used, but if you can't find or afford a water proof fabric, you can double the thickness and include a layer of saran wrap and Aluminum foil between the two layers - funky but works if you are desparate, and much cheaper. Suggest using only Nylon or Polyester fabric if you do this.

I make a tube 8\" wide x 18\" long by sewing over the long edge, all but the last 3.5 inches, which will be the jaws of the mouth that will close around the paddle shaft. I triple sew both sides of the tube, rolling over the outside 1/4 inch to add some stiffening which makes the poggies easier to don and doff. Leave the last 3.5 inches open and seal all the edges by folding over a roll 1/4 \" wide and triple sewing it as you did the sides of the tube. Place open end of the \"jaws\" on the paddle to figure out where to place the velcro. Works better to have the velcro \"hooks\" on the top edge and have the top edge fold under the bottom edge. This way you don't get the squirts of water as much due to waves. Mark and then sew. If you can't find 1\" wide velcro, multiple rows of 1/2 inch wide velcro may be used. I add a 10 inch \"tail\" on one side of the poggies to make donning the second poggie easier than grabbing the bare fabric with my teeth, by sewing a rolled and triple sewn 1/4 inch wide tube. That becomes the inside edge as that is where you will grab with your teeth to pull the last one on. You could do it to just one, but then you might have to don that one first due to circumstances on the water.

Seaming tape in a contrasting color helps keep your sewing errors from coming unraveled as it is yet another layer of stitching and it also looks sharp in photos.

Other touches - add some waterproof retro-reflective SOLAS tape to the top, bottom, and knuckle surfaces so you can be spotted if you get caught on the water after dark. Happens sometimes in the winter months and on fluctuating creeks.

Some folks like to add a large 1/4\" wide plastic wire tie to the long edge seams as a stiffener when they are sewing the tube edges. Can make donning the poggie easier when wet or icy, helps keep it from bunching up, and helps to keep the shape and an air chamber of sorts so your hands stay dryer ( less contact with a wet surface is less heat sucked away.

Best of luck with your project and hope you stay warm. I liked mine so much, I made a spare pair for first aid kit which I can also loan out to keep a partner from Hypothermia. Hands are your 2nd or third greatest heat loss area in the water after your head or maybe elbows, depending on how you dress.***

***(I'm one of those weirdos who like their elbows \"free\" to move with less resistance to movement. I wear the cutoff sleeves of an old long sleeve wetsuit under a paddling jacket. These cutoff sleeves have a half moon shape cut out on the inside of the elbow and are called gauntlets by old time river guides. Can be worn witha vest, shorties, farmer Johns, or what used to be a long sleeve top or one piece suit. Dry suits don't do it for me as I have never found one that is truely dry, and I just can't take the neck constriction, having tried.)

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13656

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Some very good advice there! go find a sewing machine and some material and go play. I will be aquiring my girlfriends mums sewing machine or just giver the material and a old pogie as a template should be easier, shes a seamstress:grin:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13658

No knowing what a pogie is I googled it and this was my first hit:

Urban Dictionary: pogie
Korean slang for the female genitalia. I really need to get me pogie.

... u want to make that with a sewing machine, velcro and fabric :think:
I guess a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do to get him some pogie :dance:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13660

Pogies are mitts that kayakers wear.

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13661

.... and Babylon says:

mitt:
n. mitten; fingerless glove extending to the elbow or beyond that is worn by women and is often made of lace; glove used by baseball players to catch the ball (Sports); hand (Slang)

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13666

If you don't have access to an industrial sewing or if your girlfriend/wife/mother won't let you use hers then sew it by hand. I made my own cow's tail sewn fully by hand using dental floss. Works like a dream. It's been in service for more than 2 years now and is strong as an ox. I trust it enough to put my life on it. It is stronger than the ones sewn by proper companies. It is just pretty time consuming but at least you'll relax and build some strong (and tough) fingers too... :yes: :roflol: :grin:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13668

Thanks for all the feedback. Hey adrian what the heck is a cows tail?

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13670

Kayaker0678 wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback. Hey adrian what the heck is a cows tail?


ask dr google, or even better, ask the kayak search engine:

www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012365686223057051577%3Ar-xj5yyxtmq

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13671

Kayaker0678 wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback. Hey adrian what the heck is a cows tail?


This is a cow's tail :grin:



Consists of tubular webbing (about 1 inch/25 mm wide) and then I put a flat elastic inside. About 20 mm wide. Available from any fabric shop. The same flat elastic as in the waist band of your boxer shorts etc. Then bunch up the tubular webbing so that the webbing is longer than the elastic. If you know what I mean. This makes it possible to make it extend. :grin:

Sure you know it now Alex? :think: Attached to the back of your PFD on the chest harness. (if you have a rescue type PFD)

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 2 months ago #13703

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:( and I thought it was for a fancy dress costume:bounce: (singin rawhide now cheers :mad: )

seriously on a cowstail Iwould reccomend replacing the snapgates for screw gate karabiners especially at the end which attatches to your buoyancy aid, thus stopping the risk of it clipping itself to something it should not therefore no longer being quick release

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13732

Hey Chris. Yeah, I've got a screw gate on my harness but still a snap link on the clipping end. Still got to find a nice big screw gate. :lol:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13760

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any climbing HMS karabiner should do it :)

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13763

I like to be able to clip the karabiner onto a paddle shaft and not all HMS krabs can do that... :no: Been too lazy to go and find one. :lol:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13768

paddle carabiner

www.nrsweb.com lookup item #1596 $12.95 in stock

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13772

That's what Adrian has I assume. He said he couldn't find a big enough screwgate model…

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13780

In fact mine is the same as the Palm cow's tail picture I put up. The snaplink Palm one. Looking for a screw gate.. They are out there.

Shot for the effort Beaverman. :grin:

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13795

Well if that won't do, here's a few more shots.

Find a local source for scaffolding supplies or rescue service supplies and see if you can order a Miller 18D-2 carabiner. It is Aluminum, has a 57mm Gate openning (2.25 inches).

Or the MSA SCRA722 Carabiner 52mm (2.1 inch) gate openning

If you want to order from over here, Try www.westernsafety.com

Another shot is the #10 snap from www.karlkuemmerling.com
It is NOT a carabiner, but it might work if you are open minded enough, as it has an auto lock.

If these won't do it for you, try looking under fall protection systems and look at the safety lanyards. Some of them are large throat hooks with one handed double click safety latches which I find faster and easier to use then Twist locks, but as the above possibles, They are auto locks, NOT just auto catch with a manual screw lock.

See if these help you. Have just purchased 2 sets of climbing harness, lanyards, and multiple biners for working high scaffolds with Habitat for Humanity (starting 4th house volunteering for them here soon) so have perused a few sights of late. Need more info? Ask and you might receive something.

BTW - why doesn't someone split these last few posts off into another topic as the thread has been sort of highjacked away from Pogies.

Eric

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Re:Make your own Pogies 18 years 1 month ago #13928

HOT IDEA!!! I'm always for sharing anything I know, but today I saw an Idea for pogies I had to steal and pass on. In the April 2007 edition of \"Sea Kayaker\", there is an article on starting on page 38 by Heather Nelson, about her participating in a 460 mile endurance race on the Yukon River. There on page 39 is a photo of her using Pogies made of Mylar bubble film. Holy Hannah, Shake and bake pogies!. Little bit of duct tape and maybe 50 cents worth of insulation film and you should have a home made set of pogies, waterproof, wind proof, stiff enough to don and doff easily, and on top of that they should float!. Add some velcro and they could be reusable possibly beyond a season. Picture is worth a thousand words. Thank you Ms. Nelson!!!

We used this stuff to wrap 2 of the houses we have owned and it is truly amazing stuff. Very effective. Immediately noticeable, even before we got the siding back on over it. Seals in heat in the winter, reflects heat back out in the summer to lower AC costs. I still have a large partial roll of it left over in my basement. Think we got our mylar film for $125 dollars for a 120 foot by 6 foot roll. or maybe that was for two or three rolls, as we used it on the sides of the house and the roof when we added on a porch. Whatever - the stuff on a square foot basis is CHEAP and they routinely throw away scraps as large as one would need for pogies at construction sites. I'll make a couple of pairs tonight, as I'm taking out a beginner next weekend.

ps - I can't begin to imagine the pain of paddling 460 miles in 46 hours 32 minutes and 27 seconds, even after reading this article, whose title is River of Pain. I'm up at 4AM because my arthritus is flaring up just with a front passing through. I paddle for fun in 5 to 25 mile jaunts maybe 120 times per year, and the farthest I have ever paddled in one day was 80 something miles and that was for a charity. My helmet is off to Ms Nelson and the other racers for their endurance, experience, dedication, and training, although one does have to wonder about their sanity for pushing the limits of masochism so far. Again, thanks for the idea on the mylar pogies and other things shared in the article. It made the purchase of the magazine worth it for that alone, instead of just my normal lusting after longer, faster, lighter boats.

Eric, aka Beaverman

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