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air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #14907

please exuse my ignorance but whats the differance between an air screw an donkey flip? or are they the same move? iv heard that the angle is differant

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #14908

I'm not an expert about playboating moves, but as far as I have understood the only difference is that the donkey flip is somewhat of an un-complete air screw. The air screw should land straight and on the hull bow pointing upstream. The initiation of the donkey flip is the same, but it lands sideways and/or on the side of the kayak.

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #14926

the donkey flip and the airscrew are the exact same thing. screw corran and j blakeney if they say differently. in any other sport other than this one, a move with just a little less completion would not be a different move.

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #14933

yep same move, donkey flip sounds cooler tho

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #15315

air screw is landing flat on hull donkey flip land on side or umcomplete but still stick it in the wave different tricks should get different points

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 11 months ago #15351

I've got confused on this one and only the Freestyle rules of moves should confirm it, i see 3 moves
Airscrew - Donkey flip - Mistyflip
Airscrew is as it says, Looks like a screw being screwed into wood, should be straight with no change of angle and land flat on the hull,
Donkeyflip, like an airsrew but a vary of change in angle and lands sideways or not flat,(at my local spot we have had to land sideways and retain in a back surf)
Mistyflip, simply a mix of an airscrew and a pan-am, genrally landing this trick sideways.
this has been what i have been working off,
are they right, in my eyes yes, but please do tell me if different!
pikey

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 8 months ago #17570

From what I've heard an airscrew is a clean flip hull-to-hull. A donkey flip is when your hands punch the water so it is kind of incomplete. A misty flip (i think, correct me if im wrong though) is the same as a helix, which is like and aircrew plus a 180 landing backwards

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Re:air screw/donkey flip 17 years 8 months ago #17572

The official european cup points sheet which is what most people are starting to go by defines an airscrew as landing flat (or at least under 45 degrees) which is like 18 points I think, where as a donkey flip you don't make a complete rotation but still stay in the wave which I'm pretty sure is worth 12 points. A misty flip or cab screw is basically like a half a helix that lands in a backsurf, but it can fit under the definition of a pan-am which is just a past- vertical 180 degree rotation of the boat that at one point is completely areal and lands in a backsurf.

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