can enny one help me i can doublepump and stall for about 2 seconds but then just fallover on my head so can enny one help thanks

A couple of options for U:

1. Fill your boat with some water and see if U can stay vertical, supposed to be easier cause it slows things down.
2. Get some one to stand in the water and give U support -so that U can get the feel for the balance.

That all being subject to U understanding the technique - paddle position, body position and movement. So wacth an intsctional video, read something.
It is a good idea as well to be in a smallers boat you can fit into.

Enjoy,
D

1. Get yourself to a swimming pool
2. Put a bunch of water into your boat
3. put your paddle on the side of the pool, and using your arms, do a push up and get into the bow stall position. Balance yourself using your arms on the side of the pool.
4. Slowly take your hands off the side of the pool and put them on your paddle
5. With paddle in hand (and still leaning against the pool deck), slowly move away from the pool deck and put your paddle in the water.
6. Balance as long as possible and then repeat.

Next take a little bit of the water out of the boat, and repeat the steps above. Do this until you can balance the boat on it's bow without any water in it. Take a little out at a time.

Now that you know how to balance on the bow, you just need to learn the double pump, and your in business.

I found that learning how to balance your boat, before you learn the double pump, will get you bow stalling quicker.

Good luck

A while ago I had some lessons from Casper (van Kalmthout) and he simply got in the water (it was a pool but anything shallow enough would do of course) and held my paddle while I was trying to keep the boat balanced (in a bowstall).

That worked really well to get the feel for balancing the boat. Besides, he could give me instructions on what to do (or not to do) because he felt whatever I was doing to the paddle (and could aniticipate on what would normally have happened if I would have tried to stall on my own).

Sounds like you have your double pump, if your falling on your head your leaning back on the deck of your stern. Instinctively, that is what it feels like you need to do. But, you need to lean forward to have the bow level off or lean back to drive the bow deeper. Its a balance you point you need to find, with some practice you will nail it. Good luck!

As Spinn said, remember to lean forwards once you're in the stall and also try to push the paddle as far away from you as possible. When balancing your boat and each paddle form the point of a triangle and increasing the size of that triangle can only make it a more stable platform to stall from. Apart from that practise really does make perfect, ive been trying for months and still havn't quite got it, good luck!
Dolly

I just recently (this week) went from being able to hold my stall from about 3 seconds to about a minute. Here's the key. It's all about the way you visualize it. Everyone says, \"If you're falling on your face that you need to lean forward.\" The reason for that is because it, in theory, brings the bow of your boat more in front of you, which will hold your stall. I don't think about it like that. I'm going to try and show you why with the little slashes on a keyboard.


Here is the 'ideal' stall position - \ the boat s at about 70 degrees

If you're falling on your face it means that at some point your boat is getting into this position - /


Now, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a decently flexible guy. I can touch my toes with no problem, which means that I can move my upper body forwards and keep my lower body completely in place. So if I'm bow stalling and I imagine leaning forwards chances are my boat will not shift. In fact, it is more likely to go even further into this - / - position because if I lean forwards my legs are going to want to go backwards.


So - that was a long explaination of what I found to be the key which is to imagine moving your feet forwards and backwards to maintain the ideal position. Your upper body will follow in whatever way feels the most comfortable. If you feel that your about to fall on your face try and swing your legs forward in front of you just a little bit.

I hope this helps. Let me know.

One other thing is to kind of hold the tension of your body in your lower back and abs. You want your body to be at about a 90 degree angle from your boat and your arms to be at a 90 degree angle from your body. That obviously shifts and adapts to maintain balance, but when you're in those positions you can usually hold the stall without much effort.

I just recently figured out the bowstall and got it pretty solid. I couldn't do it for the longest time and two things that I changed made the difference.
1. When you get verticle, look up, if you are looking down at the water its no good and you'll go over, you should be looking up.
2. Get your paddle out as far as possible so that your arms, boat, and the surface of the water form 3 sides of a triangle, the further out you get your paddle, the more balance you'll get. (keep it on the surface of the water too, dont let your paddle go more than afew inches underwater)

The most important thing is to just keep practicing and soon enough something will click and you'll get it. keep at it:grin:

could anyone explain how to get into a bow stall? i have the idea that i have to somehow force the bow under me when i'm on edge, but how?

Check this video out:

playak.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=a85d6d06f1fdd4475dac

It shows the rock and roll drill which one needs to be able to do for cartwheels or getting into a bow stall. It's not bow stall specific but the visuals might help a little. And this one, for some wheels:

playak.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=9f0dcae6b937cf440aeb

Hope that helps. TIP: Keep your paddle almost parallel to the water when doing the reverse stroke to sink to bow.

actually, when first learning the bow stall, the plowing method may be easier.

with the double pump you have to learn 2 complicated things at the same time. it's easier to first plow forward and find the correct balance point for a bow stall. once you know what a good bow stall feels like, you can try to get there from a double pump.

when plowing, always edge the boat a bit to the opposite site of your stroke - this give the literal plowing effect.

keeping the boat straight is not quite trivial either, but i think it's easier to learn than the double pump.

having said that, in the end the double pump is a much more inportant skill than the plow

oh well, they're all fun to learn anyway...

final hints for learning the bow stall: keep your head low, your paddle at least a foot in front of you, and try to keep looking at the horizon...

I actually have some old footage that I conned an ex girlfriend into taking of me a while back. I'm sure I've got some bow stall footage in there. Might be useful to create a little 60 second clip. Should have the plowing ender in there too, I think.

Thanks, I was wondering about how to get into one, i have the idea in my head, but not the actual motion.

Check it out:
playak.tv/view_video.php?viewkey=6c964c674853a89796c8

I don't have any up to date footage but when I can paddle again (around November) I will get some specific footage and do some instructional videos on various things... Hope this helps.

Thank you! Just got back got back from the swimming pool and the tips here were really useful. For the first time I was getting good solid bow stalls. The triangle tip and the kind of stiffening your body tips were particularly good! cheers! s

im at the same stage. but i did get a few tips from my friend / instructor.
try these when stalling

>move your seat forward
>when your up on your bow try andstand on your foot rests( if you know what imean)
>keep paddling until you are almost vertical
>form a triangle between you and the boat
>when you are up and have formed a triangle use the paddle to balance your self


it take a while to get the hang of these but they will help.
good luck

you dont want the boat vertical, 20 degrees or so off vertical should do, and different to what you might think but if you are falling forwards you should lean into it aggresively, vise verca if you are falling back you should try to stand up in your boat.

put your paddle in the water and as far away from your boat as possible, it improves stability

anyone have any tips on how to just get the double pump?
i can't seem to get the momentum to get onto the bow, I always get about thirty degrees out of the water with my stern and then just flop back down onto my tail, i have tried going more on edge, but the same thing just keeps happening!
i would love any advice i can get!

at last i can bow stall with only a bit of water in my boat and i can hold it for more then 5 secs


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