wot does everyone think of the projects? 45, 52 and 62 playboating wise for both flat water and holes/waves etc. are they good boats allround eg outfitting, plastic ect ect.

I have one and love it... good boat

Flatwater does well
Holes are really good
Waves I liked the s-star better
Plastic is good

Pretty good playboat
but get out and demo as its not for everybody

yep not 4 me. went 4 a demo yesterday and dont fit into the 45 or 52 and the 52 is too big.oh well.

Try a different brand, would recommend the Star/ Allstar from Jackon both faster and more fun than the project, or the Pyranha 4Twenty, Rev, Gforce

Happy Boating

i had an allstar but sold it as the back was sinking down with me. wish i hadnt now tho. tried the g force and really liked it. guna try a sub 6 x maybe. there arnt many dealers round here. wavesport, dagger and liquid. wana try the pyrhana but aparently its the same size as the wavesport. il have to see tho.

Was it an old or newer version of All star? as theirs a big difference, I wouldn't bother with a s6x dated boat that wasn't that great when it first came out! Check out Swansea Canoes they have several boats in which could be worth a try and a few are on their special offer page.

cool.cheers il take a look.it was the older version of the allstar.

Love my project52 it wants to spin on a wave, breaks loose super easy. very predictable and forgiving when cartwheeling. and has more rocker than the JK stars, so it's not quite as fast on a wave but you get more bounce. Plus it's more easily customizable for a good fit than any jackson boat I've been in. and I used to own a 4fun, paddled a fun quite a bit, and paddled an allstar. But test both out and really demo them hard.

the 45 and 52 are sick boats, plastic's great and outfitting is better than any on the market. In my opinion these are the best playboats out there. The 62 is kinda big, heavy and sluggish, but the only big boat that seems to avooid those problems to some extent is the new super star.

My other word of advice is that the second you try it, you'll either love it or hate it..

The way this boat fits isn't for everyone, It's narrow, so your knees are not cocked out like in many other boats. The project doesn't have extra bow space for your feet, so if you have size 11 feet and over a 32 inch inseam than you'll be screaming from the foot pain. I truly believe that if you don't have a boat that doesn't fit your body well, then you don't have a good boat. In other words there is a boat out there for every person, fit wise, ability level, and how the boat performs based on your strengths and style. That being said, the project series is a great playboat, with a design that pulls features from many other boats out there to be right in the middle of how it performs against other boats.. It'll be faster than some, less edgy than others.. More forgiving than many, and easier to predict.. while it will be slower than some, and not as bouncy as others.. etc. etc. etc.

Again, I love this boat, it performs exactly how I like my boat to perform, does exactly what I want, and fits me like a glove. And the fact that it takes many boat designs and puts it into one boat so that it falls between other boats in design features. it's great, because I can get the best of both worlds.

I have heard bad things about the plastic, but so far my boat has been brutally bashed and is standing up very well to the abuse. SO, get to a store demo so you can test out various boats or whatever you can do, but find a boat based on you and your needs and your style.