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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3905
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wot star rating r u ?
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3910
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where do you see the stars?
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3911
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i mean like kayak star award im not sure if its like that out of engalnd though
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3917
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I think it's only in the UK. Whats up with the whole star rating thing? How does it work and what does it mean?
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3919
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its purely a british thing run by the bcu so i doesnt aplly to any one else out of the uk
but im 4* working towards 5* tho i dont think i will be able to do a 5*traininng course this late in the season this is for those of you that dont know what the star system is 1* fundermentals of kayaking 2* beginer 3* intermaidate 4* advanced 5* expert |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3920
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OK. So it seems you have to pay money to do a course and then if you pass you have that specific star rating. Can your star rating prohibit you from running certain rivers recreationally/competition or whats the story?
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3926
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[quote:e18a91ebc1="AdrianTregoning"]OK. So it seems you have to pay money to do a course and then if you pass you have that specific star rating. Can your star rating prohibit you from running certain rivers recreationally/competition or whats the story?[/quote:e18a91ebc1]
It doesn't usually stop you doing anything |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3927
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Some artificial whitewater centres need you to be a minimum of 3* to paddle alone without a coach. I've got 3* myself.
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3928
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I would be a three working on four then
In America we dont really worry about that, if you want to commit boat suicide than that is fine with us (sarcasm and no i dont mean that we dont care about you if a tradgidy happens but you wont find sympathy from me when you go WAY beyond your comfort level and get yourself and possibly your mates killed) |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3935
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So whats the core purpose to the star ratings? To ensure and/or encourage people to be more safety conscious??
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3949
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The 1 star is certainly a reward to draw people in to kayaking. The BCU (British Canoe Union) award mentioned is the Inland kayak test. There are other versions for sea kayaks etc. I am a 4 star paddler. I only got it 2 to 3 weeks ago. But this enables me to take a coaching certificate. It allows me to take groups of less experienced paddlers onto lakes and rivers so i can train them, giving something back to the future of kayaking.
I am aiming for my 5 star supposedly being the hardest one to get and very few people have this award. If you are a member of the BCU, you can get onto rivers more cheaply. (Those rivers that charge you that is.) Still want to know stuff? i know a lot about this. ill keep checking this forum so ask some more questions. |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3961
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what are the benifits of being a 5* paddler over a 4* paddler
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3989
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[quote:9df16d5e08="Rob_H"]Some artificial whitewater centres need you to be a minimum of 3* to paddle alone without a coach. I've got 3* myself.[/quote:9df16d5e08]
you have to ranked at a certain level in slalom or have passed a test with a certified coach to paddle without on-shore supervision of a coach out in Dickerson, Maryland. And, you still can not paddle alone. You must have at least one other paddler with you there. It's a liability thing, which I'm sure is the same in the U.K. |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3993
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So when you do these courses, do you start at the bottom? With the 1 star first? Sorry all the questions but this is interesting... In South Africa you just climb on the rivers and paddle. Don't need a qualification or skill or anything. We also don't have any rivers where you need to pay. No one really bothers here. I'm going to the UK on wednesday for 2 years so I'll be paddling there. ( and working ) Thats why I wanna know whats potting. Cool.
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3996
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im a 3* but i am also a level two coach, with the star system everyone begins at the bottom and works up. This ay you know you are learning the basic moves first and mastering them as you progess through the sylabus.
The star system also helps to identify your ability and you can therefore work out what level of water is most apropriate to your needs and ability. Its a guide line. the final thing the star awardslet you do is to allow you to train to become a kayak instructor. Again in the BCU instructor qualifications come in 5 stages with 1 being the lowest and 5 the highest. you can go for instructor 1 after 2*, instructor 2 after 3* etc. just because you have the stars though doesnt mean you will become a coach your own understandings, personality, leadership and kayaking skills are all assessed as well as your age of course. oh i almost forgot to become an instructor you must also already have a valid first aid certificate ana a canoe saftey certificate (basic lifesaving/ rescues) Pugwash |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3998
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Hmmmm.... So even though I'm competent I might find myself at an artificial course with them saying sorry mate, you can't paddle here.
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #3999
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Maby I got some special care, but I started by taking the 4* evaluation and 5* training. So if you are competent you might skip a few grades. But my understanding of this system is that it does not focus on your abilities as a kayaker, 5* training is done on class III not class V, the focus is on you being a sensible and functioning group member and later group leader. So organizing and planing is as a big part of being a 4*paddeler as kayaking is. And if you are a 5* paddeler it does not mean you can handle class V.
But if you want to paddle in the UK you will want to become a part of the BCU, for access rights. I think at least, I have never paddeled in the UK my self  |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4001
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Will do so.
 Over here rivers are considered public property up to the high water mark. One can paddle down pretty much any river. Just gotta make sure you ask permission to drive on somebody else's land, otherwise... It's a pity it's not like that in the UK. I heard that might change. True? |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4005
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in America the law is if you can log on the river ( throw i log down it and it flow freely ) then you can paddle on it and there usually public accsess points
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4048
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the law in the uk is that you can paddle anywear as long as you dont mind being shot at by posh gits who think they own the water or being arrested for causing criminal damage, or maybe disterbing the fish or pay a nice fee!
Its best to join the BCU you then stand a chance of paddle a few sections of the rivers in England. Join the access debate thats going on right now pugwash (stuck in the harbour) |
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4051
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under to be 3* level 2 coach a few years back, never botherd with it after that so i guess they dont mean s**t anymore
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4065
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i paddle grade 4 and im 14
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4069
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im 3 star, mainly cos i cudnt b bothered to go on courses to get 4 star. theyare pretty pointless unless you want to become a instructor.
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4079
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but then you may not be able to paddle as many places
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4107
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its not that hard to get the star rating it seems or am i wrong?
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4129
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sounds kinda hard to me
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4151
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well if the getting star rating 5 is on a class three course that sounds easy
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4165
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yes but mastering every paddle stroke and all your rolls is pretty time consuming
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4173
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yea but not if you do it for a living
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wot star rating r u ? 19 years 11 months ago #4180
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Dont forget for the star awards there is also a section on Kayak knowledge covering equipment, safety, first aid, river knowledge and canoeing history and canoe sport.
as well as prove to one person you are of a certain standard and in my case as well as freinds convincing an instructor in the middle of a storm when they are soakinmg wet standing on the side that your bow rudder rotated you far enough is a challenge many fail. pugwash |
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