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Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll is? 18 years 8 months ago #8809

Woul dnayone do me the big favour of looking at this video and tell me what the name of the roll is that their instructor does towards the end of the video.

www.exchile.com/videos/Hot%20Springs%20Promo.wmv.zip
www.exchile.com/videos/Hot_Springs_Promo_06.mov.zip

Theyt are the wmp and quicktime links

Its really sweet and I wanna learn how to do it
thanks a lot
tom

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll is? 18 years 8 months ago #8811

It's called a back deck roll

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 8 months ago #8813

but it looks different from any other back deck roll. or is he just very good at it?
tom

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 8 months ago #8814

dry roll is what i call that. see also the clip from our review of the Liquid Skills video:

playak.com/media.php?src=dmlkZW9zL1RlY2h...IC0gRHJ5IFJvbGwubXBn

basically, the trick is to use one blade first to make sure your hair doesn't get wet and then the other to roll up again :)

(not that i can do it myself, but that's the easy to explain theory :) )
If you're happy, you're successful.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 8 months ago #8843

I learnt to do them last night in the pool. All it is really is starting in an offside backdeck roll position, pushing on your paddle before switching into an onside roll position. You do it exactly how it looks on the video.
PS wear a helmet. I hit my head a few times on the stern.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 8 months ago #8892

There is a series of roll videos that will clarify the different rolls and terminology. It is confusing as to what people call the \"back deck roll\" If you watch the series of rolls at this link www.exchile.com/KayakSchoolRollIdentifier.htm you will have a clear idea of what is what, and a terminology that will allow you to communicate with instructors and experts.

To keep your head dry it will take one extra step over what you see in the video. It will take one extra push down and the blade that is not actively used. This extra push will keep your head dry in the transition to the active blades movement. Wearing the helmet protects you when you head hits the back deck the first few times you practice this.

Believe it or not it is quite easy to learn. It is the moving Torso that causes the paddle to move. You do not need to get your shoulder into any extreme position.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll is? 18 years 6 months ago #9772

Why would you use that roll, or should i say when?

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll is? 18 years 6 months ago #9803

its a great roll to use for super fast recoveries when your iun a wave or hole. i know someoen who uses it for creeking, but i wouldnt recomend that because it leaves your face exposed.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 6 months ago #9811

robmeister wrote:

its a great roll to use for super fast recoveries when your iun a wave or hole. i know someoen who uses it for creeking, but i wouldnt recomend that because it leaves your face exposed.


But on the other hand it leaves your spine protected. And you can put your hands infront of your face for protection (wear elbow pads!)

In my opinnion the back deck roll is as valid roll in creeking as anything. Whatever gets you up fastest is the best roll.

Like this...

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 6 months ago #9812

Hahaha... nice, fast is good :D

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 6 months ago #9818

to each his own i guess

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 6 months ago #9863

However fast your roll is, not capsizing in the first place is the better creeking / river running / playboating technique.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 6 months ago #9869

neilnt wrote:

However fast your roll is, not capsizing in the first place is the better creeking / river running / playboating technique.


Ofcource, but sometimes you will capsize not matter what and your better be ready for it. Many times a small error accumulates to a major crisis because the paddler don't have a good command of basic support strokes and rolls.

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Re:Can anyone tell me what the name of this roll i 18 years 4 months ago #11570

i'm not so sure about using a back deck roll in creeking, but i've done it several times. when i'm in a hole, i tend to just hipsnap with the current and that seems to get me up. The one major advantage i can see with it is that once you have it really really well, you can do cool stuff like down river kickflips and air screws.

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