Has anyone ever suffered this. I was surfing yesterday & lost my paddle then when i hand rolled I felt something go in my shoulder & really hurt.After that I had to take a break. Later at home i put some wait on it and heard this crunch but it felt 10 times better. Still when i move it it feels like theres something grinding and hurts a bit.

YES!
Go see your doctor.
Dislocations (even partial ones that popped back) can have long term negative effects.
No one likes going to a clinic but if you end up with a shoulder that is not right it really sucks.
Good luck with that.
FYI: Make the following part of your regular paddling routine: After you have stretched andd got onto the water, make sure you do at least 50 good back strokes on flatwater before you go out and play.
This strengthens the of the muscles in the shoulder and will help prevent disclocations.
(When we paddle we are always working on the muscles required for forward strokes and braces. Themuscles required to back stroke tend to get neglected. Take care of this with the bacl stroke excersise and you will have amore balanced muscle group which will help you)

Actually Rob if you are gonna do those exersises you should do them after you are finished kayaking and before you get out of the water. It will not strengthen anything until after you have recovered on a good nights sleep. In fact doing this before you go out by your theory would tire out the muscles and cause more imbalance. The strengthening happens not on the river in real time, but once you have rested at home. Most daily activities and gym exsersises actually overdevelop the chest anyhow. Kayaking is one way to restore this imbalance. Other than that I totaly agree... go see a Dr. ASAP! Don't to any exsersizes or activity that causes ANY pain at all. Go to the Doc's.

Peace,
Whitewaterules

Thanks Whitewaterules.

Since my first injury, (and after a full lengthy recovery) I was advised to do the excersises first.
However, I after reading your post and some thought on it, I have to agree with you. The excersie after the paddling makes a lot of sense.
Thanks it is a change to our retine that will be applied.



And I will go to bed a bit smarter tonight!

Definitely doctor time. Go see your GP first but if they say you need physio and theres gonna be a long wait for an nhs one you might want to go see a private physio to get some advice and exercises to stop it getting worse in the meantime.

I agree with whitewaterrules about the exercises for strengthening but that might not be the whole purpose of those extra strokes. After stretching, the muscles are loose and relaxed giving full range of motion and reducing risk of muscle injury. As the shoulder is only held in by the tension of the muscles around it, maybe you need to make sure those muscles aren't so relaxed that they would allow it to dislocate. That is only a guess though, I could be wrong.

I do warm up and warm down as I do a few other sports and have been in pain too many times from not doing it. I hadn't hand rolled in a while and it was a new boat, thats the only reason i can think of why it happened. I need to find a doctor now, im not registered anywhere & its not an easy task in the city .



Also a bit of random info for you, I learnt this from training in Parkour. Studys have shown that if you warm up it speeds up muscle impulses which means faster reaction times on the water which is a good way of encouraging youngsters to warm up for any coachs.

I'd like to see the yahoo who did that study. Nerual impulses are so fast that it is completley negligable. Reaction time primarily happens in your mind, not your muscles or peripheral nervous system. The difference would so minuscule it's negligable. What warming up does do is help remind the body and mind how to work together and in balance. I read a study word for word, by a reputable University with women cyclists that suggested, that stretching actually increased the likleyhood of muscular strain. Now there are plenty of other studies that show the opposite. But my point is, you can find a study that says whatever you want. You should also read the original study before you beleive what anyone says about any study, or else you're really miseducating yourself. All sorts of yahoos use flawed reasoning to deduce rediculous conclutions. Anyhow... don't kayak again or stretch or warm up, until you see a doctor. You could cause permanent damage and never be able to kayak again. So, do the right thing and don't listen to anyone playing doctor. I'm not blowing smoke, I studied Athletic Training as my Major in college and have over 1500 hours of clinical experience.

Peace,
Whitewaterules

RobertZ wrote:

Thanks Whitewaterules.

Since my first injury, (and after a full lengthy recovery) I was advised to do the excersises first.
However, I after reading your post and some thought on it, I have to agree with you. The excersie after the paddling makes a lot of sense.
Thanks it is a change to our retine that will be applied.



And I will go to bed a bit smarter tonight!

The advice to do excecises first was probalby meant as a warmup. For strength, do your excercises last. For warmup, which is also very important, do them first.

So imho, do make sure you warmup before you start paddling hard.

But don't paddle hard until you've seen a doctor and you are fully recovered. Sometimes it's better to wait a bit longer to make sure you're fully recovered than to ruin your recovery by starting too hard too soon.

Go see a doctor