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Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9966

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Playak News Watch: Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll <br>

Watch Jeff Fabiszewski of The School of Liquid Rhythm Kayaking illustrate The Armpit Roll / Shotgun Roll. The Inuit call this roll Paatip kallua tuermillugu illuinnarmik. It simply means that the kayaker uses only one arm to roll with the paddle touching their shoulder. For the setup, the paddle tip is pressed against your chest near your armpit (but not under your armpit). The paddle is swept palm-up with one arm. The lift and buoyancy from the extended paddle powers this roll, no hipsnap is necessary. Keep the paddle in your “armpit” until you sit-upright. You do not need to return to the initial setup position.


What exactly is the advantage of this roll? They say you don't need a hip snap, but it seems you do need a lot more time to set up for rolling...

anyone any clues?
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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9969

I think it is like a party trick. No use for real water but great for showing off. Just like the Dry roll.

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9973

What a crock... I think the point is to extend your paddle as far from your body as possible in order to increase your chances of dislocation and scaring the local population of fish in the river. Maybe for locating rocks on the river bottom. Rolling is such a simple act, why would anyone want to do it with one hand on the paddle. I don't see the practical advantage but it would be a little harder and perhaps 'impress' those with little to zero knowledge. Eg, tourists.

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9974

I guess this can be a very vital role to know if you have an injured arm and you're upside down. Especially if you're at sea in freezing temperatures and swimming is not an option.

@Kayaker0678: not to be nitpicking but there's more to kayaking than white water rivers you know...

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9975

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I guess this can be a very vital role to know if you have an injured arm and you're upside down. Especially if you're at sea in freezing temperatures and swimming is not an option.

@Kayaker0678: not to be nitpicking but there's more to kayaking than white water rivers you know...


Good point. Wouldn't be hard even without practise. If your arm was screwed I think you'd roll with only one hand on the paddle just on instinct. Swimming in rough seas is a problem.... :yes:

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9976

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Those Qajaq paddles have very narrow blades and those large boats don't look like they're easy to roll, so maybe that's why this roll was invented?
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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9978

The real eskimos used to play around rolling a lot and have rolling contests where the winner would be the one who made the most imaginable and difficult roll. I think lot of these techniques are from there and have really no practical use outside of competitions and general showing off.

In real life you only need few different movement patterns to execute a successful roll in most of the situations.

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9982

there is one situation i can think of that this roll would be usefull and personally wish i had known how to do it earlier, in march i fully dislocated my shoulder in 15 foot swell, trust me it is not a nice experience trying to get your splashdeck and suicide straps off with one arm whilst getting battered by 15ft waves and running out of air fast, then having a trip to shore with your arm hanging off and getting tumbled around like a rag doll in the foam pile, at least if i new this roll i could of rolled and made it back to shore cousing as least damage to my shoulder as possible. maybe this is a roll we should all practice just in case the above happens!

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9984

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you are hunting, a woonded whale,... hits your arm, you go upsid-down, but you are stille alive and only able to use one hand...
Inuit CAN'T swim, why should they, 3 minutes in arctic sea and you are death, 5 min without air and you are also death -> no reason to learn how to swim, but much reasons to learn how to roll, whaleproof. And I don't think it is that hard to roll a seayak, tried it once without a paddle and when that wave hadn't been there, I should have managed it I guess

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Re:Google Videos: Qajaq skill: The Armpit Roll 18 years 6 months ago #9989

Rolling with one hand makes it seem like one of the more pratical rolls. Setting up with the oppisit blade across the bow might be tough under water if it wasen't alredy there. part of the ida was to get used to rolling in strange positions so you don't freak out if you tip over unexpected. Greenland kayaks actuly roll fairly easy and 12 to 15 kilo is extremly light for a sea kayak.

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