hi im stuck with the diffacult disission of buying a boat and i cant chose. the two i have looked at are the wavesport zg and the pyranah 4 twenty syncro 6. i have paddled the zg size (54) and like it but have never paddled the 4 twenty size (m-L).

what is the 4 twenty like 2 paddle ?
how easy is it 2 throw around?
i paddle weekley on flat water but sadly not as much on whitewater is it good on flat water?

any other info would be good to know

thanks

We'll,

The ZG is extremly user friendly and planes up very nicely it has good hull speed and ample rocker to prevent pearling. The 4twnety like the project is not user friendly and will pearl unless you know what you are doing. These two boats are best for peoplewho probaly can cartwheel, loop, and blunt. if you cannot do these tricks then consider the ZG, or Vision series. In terms of flatwater, Both can be thrown down pretty easily with practice.

[color=white:845821fbf0][/color:845821fbf0][size=18:845821fbf0][/size:845821fbf0]I have never paddled the Pyranha but I've got the ZG 54. Awesome boat. I weigh 85 kg's and paddle flat water about 5 times a week (cause we don't have any nearby rivers) and the ZG is easy to throw around. Haven't had it too long so can't comment on river running but in the surf it is a real pleasure. Lots of bounce and carves like a demon.. Good luck.

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i paddle the pyranha 4 twenty i think its an amzing boat its so easy to throw around you barely even need to put in any effort. ive never paddled the wavesport zg but i was thinking of getting it but after reading this the 4 twenty won me over and i think its a gr8 boat i was asking wt it was like b4 i got it aswell and i managed to get in touch with jamie burkbeck thorugh the pyranha website and heres wt he said....

I've managed to paddle the 4 Twenty on pretty much most kinds of features so far and I have to say I am very impressed. The Seven-0 is my favourite boat of all time as it just suits my paddling style down to the ground. With that in mind, I was really looking forward to the 4 twenty due to the fact it was based on a boat I love.




Holes:




I find that the 4 Twenty is definately well balanced on end in holes. Even though the M-L does seem a little big for me at times, being that much shorter than the M-L Seven-0 I can work with it as I can get my weight over the ends more. Cleans and super cleans are very smooth and with the volume balance it is quite easy to find the balance point and just keep going. As for looping, well what can I say? This boat is fantastic. It plugs in very cleanly for the loop and just launches both backwards and forwards with ease. The shorter length in comparison to the Seven-0 makes it slightly easier for getting to boat round and with the volume stacked more around the centre this helps with the height no end.




Waves:




I took the 4 Twenty out on Hurley Weir here in the UK when it came up a couple of weeks ago and was stunned. It feels in no way slower than the Seven-0 when charging down the wave for blunts etc. The 4 Twenty seems to just shoot up to the top of the pile when you carve about and sets up perfectly. The shorter length is definately noticable when adding in the bounce for big moves. The first move I stuck at Hurley in the 4 Twenty was a donkey flip which was something I had never managed to retain. It is very easy to swap edges for blunts and it is so easy going that I have been able to really push for bigger moves such as pan ams. Getting the 4 Twenty on edge is always a pleasure as you can really feel the edge grip and fire you across the wave. I did get a surprise the first time I tried to go for a flip turn as it snaps round awefully quickly. This is definately no bad thing though it'll just take a bit of getting used to but as seen as it was my first time with it down at Hurley that's no surprise really.



Rivers:



I took the 4 Twenty out on a nice play run in very high water the other week and it was a perfect opportunity to find out how easy it was to pick waves up on the fly. The 4 Twenty seems to pick up speed very easily when you want to get those waves that just appear and I don't think I actually missed anything I went for. In terms of downriver speed, I didn't think the 4 Twenty felt at all slow and it was very easy to place exactly where I wanted it. The edges were no problem at all which I was also surprised at as I thought they would catch me out every now and then.



If you are planning on doing primarily more river running/river play definately go for the Seven-0 as the extra length and slightly more forgiving edges will make the experience a little easier.



Overall:



Overall, again I think the guys have come up with an absolute blinder. They’ve taken a boat I love and potentially made it better. It'll take slightly longer to decide for sure but the outlook is very good indeed. For a pure Park N’ Play machine go for the 4 Twenty. If however you are looking for a more all round boat that’ll cope with almost everything you can throw at it and still hit all the latest moves, go for the Seven-0.

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Whelan, did you really write that review? nice writing good quality text. Also, can you really do all those tricks. Thats a lot for a 14 y.o ,are you sponsored?

no i was asking around for a review on the 4 twenty and i managed to get in touch with jamie burkbeck through the pyranha website an he wrote it for me... i can do a few tricks tho but ufortunately not enugh to be sponsored lol