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My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28723

[img]img.php?what=photos&which=6873&h=200[/img]Photo: My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873)

My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi


I'll be testing this boat during the next 2 weeks or so, then it goes to full production. I have no idea what the retail price will be yet. This boat doesn't have fin boxes, but the production ones will. Looks like Santa arrived just in time for me ;)

I tried the one before this, it was very sweet. This boat is definitely bloody awesome!

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28726

I hate you Adrian ... I'm pretty damn jealous right now. Have fun testing it mate!

cheers

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28727

Hahaha, I woke up early and hit some nice, glassy waves this morning - pure bliss :) Merry Christmas ;)

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28728

Merry Christmas Adrian! That is some nice greenery you got there in that hand of yours ;)

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28729

Merry Christmas to you too Jonny. Yes, I've always been told I had a green thumb :P

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28730

Cool Adrian! Good deal for you. *I am stuck here in the Northwest Georgia mountains (NOT a bad place to be stuck at all mind you). Got a chance to go to the NOC (Nantahala Outdoor Center) on the Nantahala and check it out. VERY cool. Been wanting to go there for years. (Of course it was actually physically painful being there without a boat---can't tell you how tempted I was to just get another boat right then and there!) It was SO cool being able to check out ALL sorts of boats from Liquid Logic to Dagger to Pyranha to Jackson. Picked up a replacement PFD and booties so I am back to where I was when I started this trip (that is once my new LL Remix XP9 is delivered to my door the day after I get back. North Carolina has a future for me I think.

Anyway, cheers to ALL of you and a Merry Christmas for sure! ;)

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28731

But Adrian, it rides OK without fins? And how is it to get in and out of that little cockpit?

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Re:My composite Fluid Element. Pre-production boat, hence no fi (pic 6873) 15 years 3 months ago #28732

Cool, hope you get sorted with a new boat soon! And I hope your Christmas was a good one. :woohoo:

For sure. When I had my plastic Element I went from no fins, to 2, to 4, then back to 2 for ages and then at the end without. It definitely requires you to be more on the ball without fins but it still carves like a dream with those edges. There are disadvantages and advantages either way. But it's not really a concern, as the production boats will have fin boxes and then the end user can decide for him/herself. Putting on more fins tends to make your bottom turns more drawn out and the boat does not carve as tight an arc, however it won't lose an edge as quickly and this is why I say you need to be on the ball - as in be able to use a stern rudder quickly, and properly. It does, however, help on cutbacks quite a bit as without the stern can slide out pretty quickly.

I purposely went out one day to see how hard I could carve without fins and got a mate to photograph it. This was in my plastic one which I've sold already. Have a look at the sequences at Witsand:
adrian.playak.com/index.php/surf-kayakin...ayaking-in-cape-town

Check this one, from that article anyway:


No fins...
Or check this, trying to get the edge to bust out, but it makes it. Anyway, fins are pretty cool and if I get a boat with the fins boxes I may go back to using 2 fins again. Although I am enjoying the ultra looseness of going without. Just by the way, you can still flat spin the Element easily even with 4 of the 100X47 fins.



That cockpit is not small. It's the same size as every other Fluid boat... Have you seen the size of the Riot cockpits? :) At 6' I climb in and out no problem. Andrew Pollock, the person who knows the Element the best, is about 6'3", no problems either :)

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