is it me or are pyranha crap, there have been many complaints about their plastic and foot rests there backband is terrible and deosnt stay were its supposed to and the 420 wich they raved about is just a little seven-o and also the burn looks just like they h3

pyrnaha do seem to be getting hit pretty hard on playak lately. Ive never paddled one, but they look alright to me.

The Burn is similar to an H3 but much creekier. It looks like and awsome boat. The Burn will be good for people who normaly use a playboat and are interested into geting into creeking where it is not too steep. The 420 looks like a good boat. Like all companies they don't consistently make a good product. They have ups and downs. The M3 for example is an excellent creeker and is becoming very popular. The last good playboat they had was the s6. Anyway, all boats have ups and downs. The footrest was not maintained well probaly. I think complaining about your abuse on the boat without regualry checking it is like sueing Mcdonalds for getting fat. Try their boats, the outfitting is quite nice.

[quote:d4e587ad00="jackb"]is it me or are pyranha crap[/quote:d4e587ad00]

so what exactly are the choices for answering that question?

anyway, i'll probably delete this topic soon, as it is just a very suggestive and unconstructive question to start a topic with... not that i personally have anything pro or con pyranha, but i think you could start topics on a more constructive basis....

I agree with Jeroen have you ever paddled a pyranha boat??? sure the burn is similar to the h3 as it is the next generation and has had some good improvements made to it so yes it will look similar! the 4 twenty again is similar to the 7o but again there are very important changes in the boat and the way they perform! You could say the same about most manufacturers ie dagger Gforce, kingpin, and Crazzy 88 all very similar boats but with little tweeks to make them perform differently!

as for the foot rest I take you are talking about the shock block system that was designed to break to save your ankles , knees etc which you were ment to stick the foam provided to as in the instructions so it is basically down to people being either missinformed or slightly dopey. there are similar types of foot rests in some criver runners which are designed to break away to SAVE you in a big hit.

At the end of the day All boats from all manufacturers can and will break if you keep landing, hitting them in the same place hard onto rock they are made of plastic after all!

Nuff said

i've only paddled pyranha's up until now and personally i've liked all their boats. i own an s6f and paddled an m3, micro, inazone,420, stretch...and a few others...the only complaint i have had w/any of them has been the plastic but they've improved the quality w/the new models coming out and have reinforcements available for older models like my s6f. as far as the outfitting goes its great. their synchro system fits me well (small paddler) and is easy to adjust for other personal outfitting and rigging. as Urge noted companies do have their ups and downs and pyranha could have been going thru one. even tho i'm buying two bliss stick boats (rad 175 and scud) i'm still keeping my s6f and if i had the money i'd buy a 420 too! just got a much better deal on the bliss sticks.. pyranha is, in my opinion, overpriced in this area of the U.S.

btw h2o is one of the four classical elements in greek philosophy and other branches of modern thought...earth, wind, fire, water.....but if u want to be specific about its chemistry then yes it is a compound of two elements, oxygen and hydrogen combined at a 105 degree angle

Been paddlin a S-8 for a couple of years;splatting,boofing and rock spinning ; It is holding up well. Back band stays put Of course I took the time to adjust the height so it sat properly in the small of my back. They do have a tendency to ride up, but that is due to the bunnee in the cockpit rim being to tight, I ran a sleeve through the foam pillar and set the bunjee lower

Their boats area bit more expensive here than others but they paddle well.
You hear so much stuff about the different manufacturer boats (bad plastic, good plastic, bad rigging, etc)
Not one boat is perfect for everyone.
Bottom line, the Pyranha boat are good. They fit some people and not others.
Just like the rest of the manufactureres.
I can get one boat to perform better than another on the other hand someone else can get the boat that I dont do well in and ride it hard and well.
Go figure...

i think p they r ok to be honest they have a good range and the plasticks are fine they work ok and are strong and durable so its all good. and the new 7 twenty syncrow 6 is really good they have done a good job with this boat. i dont own one but demoed it.

yer plz delete this before u make look more stupid sorry i am a fool and often prejudge things plz dont take a grudge and the h20 thing was joke by the way

lol..i was kidding too...i didnt really think u were being serious..i was just going along w/it!

Jackbe welcome to the Put your foot in your mouth club population you and me



hey i'm a poet and i didnt even relize it!!

I work in a shop, and we have had quite a few pyranha's come in for repair. Look at the "carving rail" on the bottom of their boats. It is just a 90 degree indent. This is a horrible weak spot and breaks all the time. Many customers of ours have broght these in to be fixed, plus all the breaks that they have near the cockpit, whereever there are screws, etc. Also their boats are heavier then most other brands, and the s6 series is ungodly unbalanced. I have seen probably close to a hundred people who will never learn to carthweel because they got talked into buying that boat. Many of them can initiate the stern with no paddle at all, but can not even think of doing a double pump because they have no bouency(sp?) energy. Their creek boats seem ok, but again are pretty heavy.

[quote:21740656f0="eml203"]I work in a shop, and we have had quite a few pyranha's come in for repair. Look at the "carving rail" on the bottom of their boats. It is just a 90 degree indent. This is a horrible weak spot and breaks all the time. Many customers of ours have broght these in to be fixed, plus all the breaks that they have near the cockpit, whereever there are screws, etc. Also their boats are heavier then most other brands, and the s6 series is ungodly unbalanced. I have seen probably close to a hundred people who will never learn to carthweel because they got talked into buying that boat. Many of them can initiate the stern with no paddle at all, but can not even think of doing a double pump because they have no bouency(sp?) energy. Their creek boats seem ok, but again are pretty heavy.[/quote:21740656f0]

What a load of gibberish, the S6 is a really good progressional playboat for learning all the tricks in and is soooooooooo easy to cartwheel and there plastic is not a problem any more (yes it was crap for a long time).

Denzil