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Review Detail
(Updated: November 17, 2005)
Overall rating
4.8
Design
5.0
Perfomance
5.0
Quality
4.0
Value / Money
5.0
jefe is a great creeker
i agree with the review by graham.
great hull. seems to work well on big water or steep creeks but i think it does better on steep low volume creeks. i have skinny bony knees so had to add foam to the thighbraces.
keep the seat at center or move back slightly for best performance in my opinion.
this boat boofs well, eddies well, tracks well, lands soft, punches holes ....it does everything well in my opinion.
kevin
addendum july 2006
comparison review rocker, jefe, mystic
Jackson rocker, bliss stick mystic, and liquid logic jefe
This is a comparison review of all three boats.
I’m 6 foot 215-225lbs. size 11 feet. I love creek boating but don’t get out as much as I used to. My favorite runs are green lite, Watauga, laurel fork of doe, and little river. These days it’s mainly the little or the green and I’m paddling about 3-4x month instead of the 2-4x week I did over most of the last 12 yrs. I’m not much of a playboater but I still own one and have a blast at the ocoee when none of the creeks are running. I’m always on a search for the perfect creek boat. Favorites in the past were big gun and blunt. Most recent favorites are the rocker, mystic, and jefe. Here is a brief summary of my opinions of these three boats.
Rocker currently my favorite mainly due to comfort, weight, dryness, and simple outfitting. It is a displacement hull with very little rocker despite the name. paddles differently than most of the boats I like. At my weight this boat holds a line well but needs to be encouraged to change a line or catch an eddy. Other folks seem to have a completely different paddling opinion. At first it felt like I was riding on a torpedo. Point it where I wanted and I’d go there and hopefully I didn’t need to change my mind. This took a few trips to figure out and now I like it and it sort of feels like a slalom boat to me. I never thought I’d end up in a boat like this but due to the features above and it’s great stability and the fact that it’s ridiculously easy to roll I can’t help but keep coming back to this boat after trying others. It’s not perfect. Plastic is thinner and the boat seems to flex more than the others but it doesn’t weigh much so I guess you have to pick which is more important. My rocker has the older outfitting. I’ve heard the new outfitting has better seat and is stiffer for what that’s worth.
Mystic- the newest boat so I’ve had the least amount of time in it. Awesome shape, great rocker, rolls easily, punches holes well, good stability, seems to be built like a tank…..and it weighs about as much. It does upstream ferry’s In powerful current well….much better than the huka and other highly rockered displacement hulls in my opinon My main issue with this boat is the thigh braces. I have really big thighs and the thigh cups give me a tight fit no matter how I adjust them. They don’t hurt but it makes me a little worried about getting out if I need to. This boat handles like a dream and seems to be a good boat for folks that like planning hulls or displacement since it really paddles like a hybrid hull in my opinion. It gave me a lot of confidence right off the bat. I even started thinking about running gorilla again which is something I have not done in years. This boat just felt like it would do exactly what I wanted it to even going through the notch. If this boat fits you comfortably then you have a perfect boat in my opinion. It’s heavy but perfect if it fits you and should last a long time. The new bliss stick seat is awesome. Comfy and seems to support the hull well so hopefully no oilcanning in the future.
Jefe- great design, comfy seat, lots of bow rocker, most folks seem to love this boat. I think it paddles great. I thought it rolled easily, boofs great, rides over funny water and holes and had great secondary stability. Catches eddies great. Ferrying upstream in powerful current was tricky for me since I’m used to planning hull boats so it’s a different feel and you need to cut down your angle of attack. Primary stability was not as good as the rocker and mystic and I think this is from the elevated height of the seat. This height does allow you to effortlessly do edge to edge transfers which is an awesome feel but if you are used to planning hull creekers this will feel funny at first. Boat is built well just like all liquid logic boats. I personally have really long upper legs and bony kneecaps so I never really found a way to get my knee caps comfortable but I’m not so good with modifying outfitting and everyone else seems to fit in the boat very comfortably.
In summary……my current favorites are the rocker, mystic, and the jefe. i think i could be happy with any of these if someone forced me to pick one. the one that fits me most comfortably is the rocker with the jefe and mystic being 2nd and third. as far as how the boat actually paddles i actually like the way the mystic paddles the best but it's the heaviest and least comfortable for me and my big thighs. the mystic handles so well that i'm still trying to play with the outfitting and get my legs comfortable. i wish jackson made the mystic because it would be lighter and comfortable and the perfect boat in my opinion. i'd encourage you to try all three since your body shape and paddling style may make any of these boats your favorite. i also really like all three companies.
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Age: 31
Weight: 95.3 kgs
Age: 31
Weight: 95.3 kgs
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